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Pervert who groomed 14-year-old girl for sex avoids prison after judge says ‘you’re not a real paedophile’

Decision: Judge Gareth Hawkesworth has caused outrage after refusing to jail a sex offender

A judge has been criticised for failing to jail a pervert who groomed a 14-year-old girl for sex after ruling he was being ‘simply a young man’.

Turon Ali, 26, groomed the schoolgirl by sending her explicit text messages and then arranged a secret meeting where he planned to abuse her.

He was only prevented from sexually assaulting the girl when her older brother found one of the texts and alerted police.

But Ali avoided jail at Cambridge Crown Court with a 12-month suspended sentence after a top judge ruled he was ‘not a paedophile as such’.

Judge Gareth Hawkesworth said: ‘You thought she was ”easy’ meat”. You were thrust into a moral vacuum without a single care of what you might be doing.

‘You are not a paedophile as such. You are simply a young man who was unable to control his sexual urges.’

Children’s charity campaigners yesterday slammed the lenient sentence and Claude Knights, director of Kidscape, described Ali’s crime as ‘very serious’.

She said: ‘We have to ask what is meant by the phrase, ‘not a paedophile as such’. Sexual offenders do not adhere to a stereotype.

‘Grooming a minor with the clear intention of engaging in sexual activity with her is a very serious crime, and needs to be recognised as such.

‘This young girl’s brother saved her from a terrible experience, and he should be commended for his actions.

‘Society needs to be protected from adults who target vulnerable children, and the sentencing of predators needs to reflect the severity of their crime.

‘I’m not sure the sentence is enough and if he had been jailed then the message would have been stronger.’

‘Ali groomed the girl, who cannot be named for legal reasons, with sick texts and hatched a plan to meet her at the historic Ely Cathedral, Cambridgeshire.

But her brother intervened and called police when he discovered the texts and Ali was sentenced for arranging or facilitating the commission of a child sex offence at Cambridge Crown Court on February 18.

Ali was made subject of a sexual prevention order banning him from unsupervised contact with under-16s for a period of five years and ordered to pay £500 costs.

Judge Hawkesworth ruled: ‘If you could you were going to meet her and if you could you would have engaged in some kind of sexual activity with her.

‘It then became clear that she was sexually compliant and when you became aware of this lust took over.

‘You approached her on the basis that she was a member of the opposite sex and you would have your way with her if you could.’

Ali was also ordered to sign the Sex Offender’s Register.

February 25, 2011 Posted by | paedophile | , , , | Leave a comment


Lies, Deceit and a Double Standard
by Major Gen. Jerry Curry, 06/29/2010

… in Islam it seems honorable to lie, if by doing so you advance Islam’s goals. Perhaps that is why it is perfectly acceptable and even praiseworthy for a Muslim leader to say something in English to a non-Muslim audience and the western news media, and then the very next day say the exact opposite thing while talking in Arabic to a Muslim audience and news media. A good example of this principle in action was Yasser Arafat. He could lie openly with complete sincerity while deliberately entering into false negotiations with Israel, the United States and the United Nations — probably because to him it wasn’t really lying.

I found that lying, deceiving and living a double standard are the norm for them not because they are bad people, but because their religion approves of it as long as it advances Islam’s goals…

So this is about more than lies, deceit, and a double standard. It is also about a Muslim’s holy duty to convert non-Muslims to Islam and to try to turn non-Islamic governments into Islamic Shari’a Law governments…

It is difficult for us to understand Islamic concepts and practices that are the opposite of those we hold dear, such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We often forget that Muslim nations are sometimes playing chess while The United States and other western nations are playing checkers.

The notion that it is religiously acceptable to lie, deceive and have a double standard — one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims – is an insidious and dangerous tenant of Islam If that is the Islamic mindset and modus operandi, we must always be aware that any dialogue with Muslims may not be honest and that their intentions might be less than honorable.

… our compassion, our sometimes gullible and naïve willingness to accept, embrace and welcome all religions and nationalities may, in the end, prove to be America’s downfall.

February 25, 2011 Posted by | islam, Lies, TAQIYYA | | Leave a comment

The Extremely Moderate Muslim Public Affairs Committee (MPACUK)


The following is made up of comments from MPACUK’s website. This website is perhaps the most popular Islamist/Muslim website in the UK.

Some would argue that selecting ‘comments’, rather than official articles, etc., is unfair because they may not reflect the organistion (MPACUK) itself. However, because of the wide-ranging and often-used Islamic technique of Taqiyya (lies, dissimulation, distortion, etc. in order to further the cause of Islam), you could say that the comments section actually gives us a truer and more honest take on what many British Muslims actually think. That is, Taqiyya is not in force in the ‘Comments’ section, as it is in the official articles, new pieces, etc. of this Muslim website.

You could not make up the extreme comments which follow. And they were quickly selected and hardly shortened or edited. I got all the following from the ‘Comments’ sections of only two articles/news pieces.

The Comments from MPACUK:

On the EDL and the Media

not a word in the media i forgot the media have stooped reporting on daily attacks on muslims around the country and attacks on mosques alot of the media are behind the EDL…

the rising of edl is due to the western media propaganda against muslims. edl are a bunch of stupid people who dont use their brain believing in anything the western media tells them
, they allowed themselves to get brainwashed by the western media and started this racist stupid group. – Slater

… why is it that muslim get arrested just to mention one word against these so called groups which are backed up by media and government i.e EDL , football hooligans,members of the underclass of Britain and far right facists etc…its all political and its sad that our muslim in parliment are alseep. – A Muslim

the racist EDL came and tryed to disturb the cancelled event from Troxy in tower hamlets to hilton in Edgeare rd , but were dealt with swiftly by the brothers!
Allah hu Akbar! – by Fight the EDL Now!

Why allow the Left to lead Muslims? Isn’t that another threat to our identity? The Left is explicit about wanting to win us to their ranks through joint work. The Government would also prefer Muslims to join the Left rather than work for Islam. If the EDL successfully paints us as violent, scares us into silence or pushes us towards the Left they have won.
We have Islam. We should use our Deen to direct us. The Left can follow behind but not in front. The Sunnah makes that clear. – Hassanmach

The likes of EDL and the BNP might be a threat to our lives and property but they certainly are not a threat to the Muslims’ Identity, infact they strengthen it by galvanizing muslims and reminding muslims of the extreme end of the kaafir threat.

Muslims have to be careful in dealing with the like of UAF. Muslims should remember that these folks are mostly athiests and would treat Islamic teachings with disdain and rejection. Muslims should USE the likes of UAF to their advantage.

The UAF is a secular organisation, they want to promote the ideas and ideals of secularism – that poeple are all the same, regardless of religion, that it does’nt matter what you believe, because faith to them, Islam to them, is utterly false and irrelevent. THIS IS A FAR GREATER THREAT TO MUSLIM IDENTITY THAN THE HATE OF THE EDL. And muslims should be aware.
regards. – Voltage Brother

In your blind love, reverence and subservience for the Englishman you have failed to see the point that is being discussed here… This is about leadership and specifically who muslims should be following.

What do the doggy busicuits taste like? You know the ones you get from Mr English everytime you tell a Muslim to get out of the UK for not supporting England and the like? Mr English must love it when you do that, even more than when you wave your kafir crusader flag of st george.
Btw, the world has changed, your beloved British empire is no more, people have moved all over. I’m afraid to tell you that you know. If one does’nt like the scum that exists in the land you are then you try to get rid of the scum – it’s quite simple. – Voltage Brother

this place is getting sadder by the day. there are some really sad deluded people here with the mentality of indian sepoy coolies under the evil British raj.

Saddos like ‘slick’ have turned English Man into an idol who they worship like a hindu god, protrating before him and serving him because they think he has given them all their ‘fruits’. Poeple like slick suffer from the same delusion as did those foolish, duped people of the world who got conned by the devious and insidious British Empire – they too saw a ‘white man’ and thought of him as some god to obey and serve.

It’s staggering that in 2010 there are people who still have the same backward mentality.
Voltage Brother

It’s funny you know, how effective the English Man is at psycologically subjugating the likes of shadowlite into being a servile coolie who waves the kaafir crusader flag of St george when his football team plays.

The English Man emigrated and bred in what we now call ‘America’, he emigrated and bred in what we now call ‘South Africa’, emigrated and bred what we now call ‘Australia’. He did’nt like the native poeple and country and so changed them to how he deemed fit. I don’t think the English Man or his slave lackies like Shadowlite is in any position to complain when the same happens to him. What goes around, comes around – as they say. But at least the English man should be thankful that unlike what he perpetrated, others are not committing mass murder and apartied. – Voltage Brother

as for what im doing, im involved in alot of community work,

1. Centralising the community around the mosque and making the mosque multi dimensional and a progressive leadership and supportive role, in particularly the youth. I make a big issues of developing leadership of character. And how they can make a difference to the world. I play a key role in educating upon an achademic role,.
2. Educate muslim about zionism and the creation of israel and what has been happening. In adidition EDL, BNP and recent develops. Our communities must be aware, unable to tackle situations.
3. Develop relationships with them and their associative politicians in the issues of the above. and have got results and our MP and most of our MEPs onside to our agenda. and we can keep an eye on them cos we know the tools that unable us to do so. And they know we have that ability. and they know they are accountable to us. A recent result is that our MP contributed to the signing of the 127 EDM, that criticised israel over the gaza attacks, and the EDM that calls for the UK to lobby the EU to cut the EU-Israel trade agreement… – ShadowLite

Ibn `Abidin in his Rasa’il (2:291 Sall al-Husam al-Hindi) said that a Muslim who unjustly calls another Muslim kafir commits kufr if he really considers him kafir but not if he only intents to insult him. In the latter case he only commits fisq. We seek refuge in Allah from the accusations of the ignorant and the fitan of our times. – Even Better Informed

On the Jews and the Media

If the whole of the massive, growing daily, Muslim world, can’t do anything about the tiny dot of Israel, no matter how much they whinge or attack, then it must be Allahs will that Isam is the undog of Judaism. – Ha nony mo Coward

The Ultra Orthodox Jews say a TV is a sewer running through your living room and that’s why they don’t have them. Here is the proof that the “true” Jews have know all along that the media (broadcast & print) is totally controlled around the world by the Zionists and it is aimed at perverting and undermining you.

Answer don’t buy TV’s or Radios as they are the gateway for evil into your home; Don’t go to movies which always show Muslims in negative light and try to make people hate Muslims; Don’t buy newspapers because they just repeat the same lies as TV & Radio. Even Press TV is controlled by the Pressberger family, a Zionazi clan based in Tel Aviv and New York. This Jewish cabal control Ahmedinejad getting him to say stupid things so that the US industrial – military complex can grab more of the worlds resources. Conveniently every time the USM~C wants a new weapon system Ahmedenejad comes out with some outrageous statement and lo & behold Congress stumps up the cash.

The International Jewish conspiracy that controls the worlds trade & information systems has by the throat. So powerful is this control that we do not even know if the things that the Islamic satellite channels are telling us about Islam is true. Everything we hear is a lie! – It is time on Thu

Have you ever wondered why Israel has 200 nuclear warheads? It’s not to attack any of it’s Middle East neighbours, they only need a couple to do that. They have 200 warheads to threaten us in Europe and USA – no wonder they can get away with all that they do. – mostly harmless

That’s why Muslims need to understand the existential threat that ZioNazism poses to civilisation. ZioNazis are not ashamed of Holocausting Palestinian Muslims and Christians and they openly voices this desire

Israel not only threatens Muslims, it also threaten Western Democracy. Zionists everywhere are trying their best to turn Western Democracy to another version of Israeli ethnocracy where Zionists can steal, massacre and abuse others without being punished.

Israel poses an existential threat to civilisation. – Zack

Zionists are master defamers and liars. No wonder some of them do it for a living.

The interesting point here is the complete irrationality that Zionists will use to dismiss reality and solid evidence. It is typical of a novice defamer to try to portray the aid activists as terrorists. It is very obvious to everyone that the terrorists are the Zionists. – Zack

According to WIKIPEDIA there are 9 states with Nuclear weapons. Israel have total 80 Nuclear weapons. We don’t need to worried about Israel Hezbollah is enough for them. Only one Muslim state who have Nuclear weapons which is Pakistan. we have 90 Nuclear weapons its more then Israel and over missiles can reach telabib they know it. – Abid

From: The Muslim Public Affairs Committe website:

February 25, 2011 Posted by | English Defence League Extra, MPACUK, Muslim Public Affairs Committee | | Leave a comment

Hear Mehdi Hasan

The voice of “intelligent moderate” Islam. Hear Mehdi Hasan Ranting Like A Mullah About Non- Muslims.

February 25, 2011 Posted by | BBC, Bigot, Bigotry, Extremists, Fundamentalism, islam, Islamists, london, Militant Islam, Muslim, Muslims, Question Time, SPEAKING, UK Government | | Leave a comment

Census forms are printed in 57 languages (…including Tagalog, Igbo and Shona)

'Bureaucratic': Census forms have been translated into 57 languages

Census forms will be printed in 57 languages – more than double the number a decade ago.

Taxpayers’ money will be spent translating it into languages used by only a few thousand people in Britain – including Tagalog, Igbo, Tigrinya, Shona and Pashto, it was revealed.

Printing the forms with all the different translations will cost an estimated £50,000 – and the move has been branded ‘time-consuming and bureaucratic’ by critics.

Prime Minister David Cameron had pledged to cut spending on translations to encourage people to learn English.

Hotlines will also be set up to help citizens fill out the forms in the census which is going to cost £482million.

The paperwork will even be translated into Swedish and Dutch – even though almost all the native speakers in Britain are good at English, The Sun revealed.

Seven translations will be produced for different Indian languages.

Charlotte Linacre, Campaign Manager at the TaxPayers’ Alliance said: ‘There is not an endless pot of taxpayers’ money to pay for more administration and documents to be translated in to scores of different languages.

‘There is a huge cost for so much bureaucracy and time spent translating the forms, it’s important that data is collected effectively but it’s crucial that people who come to live and work in the UK are learning English so they can integrate.

‘The Government needs to stop spending so much money on translation across the public sector, in order to relieve taxpayers of this burden.’

Languages like Igbo and Shona are spoken by millions of people round the world – although there are only believed to be a few thousand native speakers living in Britain.

Tagalog – or Filipino – is spoken by an estimated 74,000 people in the UK, there are 5,000 Tigrinya speakers and 100,000 who speak Pashto.

The forms are to be sent out to 22million homes this year.

A spokesman for Downing Street said the Labour government had decided to print the form in so many languages and it could not be reversed.

Promotion of the census costing nearly £7million will include television advertising in nine languages and dialects – Cantonese and Mandarin from China, and Gujarati, Punjabi, Urdu, Tamil, Bengali, Sylheti and Hindu from the Indian subcontinent.

Even one-person households will have to contend with 57 questions and 393 tick boxes.

A couple with four children face 272 questions and 918 tick boxes, with more to cope with if they have visitors on the census night of March 27.

People can expect to be asked how many bedrooms, bathrooms, cupboards and conservatories they have, and what central heating they use.

A question on religious belief is voluntary, but detailed information on ethnicity, colour and language spoken is not.

February 25, 2011 Posted by | Census, David Cameron, UK Government | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Record rise in immigration as 240,000 given right to stay in just one year

A warm welcome: Non-EU migration to the UK is almost at record levels

Labour’s ‘shambolic’ stewardship of the immigration system was exposed last night by figures showing that almost a quarter of a million migrants were handed the right to stay in Britain last year.

Grants of settlement, which are one step short of a passport, rose 35 per cent to 238,950 in the year to September 2010 – the highest since records began in 1960.

The total includes tens of thousands given full access to Britain’s public services because of the catastrophic failure to deal with their asylum cases swiftly.

Official figures also showed migration added 226,000 to the country’s population in 2010. This net migration figure – the number of arrivals minus those departing – is more than double the level that would be needed if ministers are to fulfil their pledge to reduce the annual net total to ‘tens of thousands’ by 2015.

Among the arrivals were spiralling numbers of students. Study visas issued in Labour’s last year were up by 41 per cent. The Office for National Statistics stated: ‘Long-term immigration to the UK for formal study has trebled over the last decade.’

The backlog of more than 400,000 asylum cases was uncovered more than five years ago and only now are many finally being resolved. Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the MigrationWatch think-tank, said the settlement figures were ‘appalling’.

‘This is what Labour called “managed migration”. It would be hard to imagine a more shambolic inheritance,’ he said.

‘Around one in three of those granted settlement were failed asylum seekers who had been hanging around so long that they acquired a human rights case to stay.’

The ONS confirmed that the foreign-born population rose by 3.2million during Labour’s 13 years in power, as reported in the Mail this week.

Sir Andrew said: ‘These figures are Labour’s legacy to Britain – 3.2million immigrants, including a quarter of a million in their last year alone.

‘Over half a million students in one year with no interviews before arrival and no checks on departure, and a “points-based system” that has increased immigration, not reduced it.’

Immigration Minister Damian Green said that the figures reinforced the need for radical reforms of the immigration system.

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February 25, 2011 Posted by | Community, Illegal Immigrants, Immigration, Labour, Multiculturalism, uk, UK Government | | 2 Comments